James Carville says Cheney endorsements could create first-time Democratic voters

Democratic political pundit James Carville argued the recent endorsements Vice President Kamala Harris has received could net her support from Republican voters, including those who have never voted for a Democrat before.

The past week saw Harris net two more endorsements ahead of Tuesday’s presidential debate, with the first from former Wyoming Republican Rep. Liz Cheney and the second from her father, former Vice President Dick Cheney . When asked what kinds of voters these two endorsements appeal to, Carville contended the endorsements could push voters hesitant to support Democrats to finally take the plunge, especially those who dislike former President Donald Trump.

“And it’s not going to be a huge number of people, but it has the potential to be very helpful,” Carville said on MSNBC’s Inside with Jen Psaki. “I could see some of that on the main line. I could see some of that in parts of Phoenix, political parts. I could see some of that in Buckhead. There’s plenty of places where we might lose 63-37. We might lose 60-40 over a period of time, that accumulates. We know that. The theory that small changes lead to big results is absolutely true.”

Ahead of the next debate, Carville argued the debate is an opportunity for Harris to portray herself as a new candidate while being someone who will “supplement” President Joe Biden’s work as president. He added that Trump’s support is always going to remain at “48” no matter what, while Harris can either push her support over this threshold or push it lower.

Last week, Carville encouraged Harris to “enable” what the Trump campaign is afraid of in Tuesday’s debate, which is to “let Trump be Trump.” Part of this strategy, he explained, is to let him talk over her and “get under his skin and show he’s not getting to her.”

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While Carville has argued that the endorsements from the Cheney family could be useful for Harris, Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders (R-AR) argued they are “in the minority” of Republican voices . She also said that Liz Cheney should not be attempting to portray herself as a conservative or a Republican when she endorsed a candidate as “radical” as Harris.

Tuesday’s debate will be hosted by ABC News and will be moderated by David Muir and Linsey Davis. The 90-minute debate will air at 9 p.m. ET and will only have two commercials in its entirety.