Radio 2 & Radio 4 FM/LW earmarked for emergency announcements/information.

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edited 29/11/22 - 22:18 in Radio and Podcasts #1
In the event of power cuts this winter, the Guardian reports having seen evidence that both Radio 2 and Radio 4 FM & LW will be used to broadcast emergency announcements/information should parts of the UK have to have their power cut this winter:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/media/2022/oct/18/bbc-prepares-secret-scripts-for-possible-use-in-winter-blackouts
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    Thanks for posting this old news from October
  • Creme BruleeCreme Brulee Posts: 198
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    More MSM fear!
  • RichardcoulterRichardcoulter Posts: 30,294
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    Eitshal wrote: »
    Thanks for posting this old news from October

    What has changed since last month? I suspect nothing.

    It's important that people know where to go to for advice & information should the worst happen, which could be for up to two days. No electricity could well mean no internet, mobile calls, VOIP powered landlines won't work, ATM's won't work etc.
  • Iain_MastersIain_Masters Posts: 3,305
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    edited 29/11/22 - 22:39 #5
    Eitshal wrote: »
    Thanks for posting this old news from October

    What has changed since last month? I suspect nothing.

    It's important that people know where to go to for advice & information should the worst happen, which could be for up to two days. No electricity could well mean no internet, mobile calls, VOIP powered landlines won't work, ATM's won't work etc.

    And no posts on Digital Spy! How would some posters cope? 😉

  • MK65ManMK65Man Posts: 2,491
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    edited 29/11/22 - 22:36 #6
    No electricity could well mean no internet, mobile calls, VOIP powered landlines won't work, ATM's won't work etc.

    For two days without power, I'm more concerned about all the food in my freezers than any of them.
  • Iain_MastersIain_Masters Posts: 3,305
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    MK65Man wrote: »
    No electricity could well mean no internet, mobile calls, VOIP powered landlines won't work, ATM's won't work etc.

    For two days without power, I'm more concerned about all the food in my freezers than any of them.

    Me too! I’ve got a whole box of Cornettos in there!
  • mogzyboymogzyboy Posts: 6,426
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    Phew, good job I listen to Radio 1.
  • MK65ManMK65Man Posts: 2,491
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    Me too! I’ve got a whole box of Cornettos in there!

    Our fridge-freezer failed last month. I "had" to eat a whole box of Cornettos in one go, to save them from being wasted. 😝

    It will be a long time before I have another one!
  • oscar1oscar1 Posts: 5,079
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    MK65Man wrote: »
    No electricity could well mean no internet, mobile calls, VOIP powered landlines won't work, ATM's won't work etc.

    For two days without power, I'm more concerned about all the food in my freezers than any of them.

    It'll be fine --- temperatures are set to plummet .
  • DavidSwanDavidSwan Posts: 163
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    Screw the whole ’MSM’ is bad’ stuff. There’s no way some blogger or YouTuber wouldn’t have at least thought how they’d react to a major incident.

    However, it’s misleading for the Guardian to suggest these scripts were prepared for actual use during a blackout. They fail to mention this until halfway through the piece… click bait at its best.

    I’ve been part of these BBC drills. They’re designed to better prepare teams in how to react to major incidents, prioritise information and improve communication in line with editorial policy.

    From my own experience - teams were asked to come into the newsroom outside of hours and play pretend for the day - a bit like that episode of Spooks, remember?.

    The scripts the Guardian have seen will include information that’s drip fed by managers and at the end there’s an assessment of how it went. Whilst someone has clearly passed this to the Guardian, it’s been misrepresented.

    You want to give the most realistic situations for teams, for me this was a royal death and a terror attack - the scripts didn’t end up in a national newspaper as us having some insight into a future attack, or the state of the royal bloodline.

    There’s absolutely no way the information they’ve passed off as ‘preparing scripts’ is based on anything more than the need to use realistic scenarios. The subject is largely irrelevant- it just gives context.

    But, shhh… don’t tell the Guardian there’s already scrips and packages ready to go for the PMs death - they might assume they’re in on it.
  • FM LoverFM Lover Posts: 50,780
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    MK65Man wrote: »
    No electricity could well mean no internet, mobile calls, VOIP powered landlines won't work, ATM's won't work etc.

    For two days without power, I'm more concerned about all the food in my freezers than any of them.

    Me too! I’ve got a whole box of Cornettos in there!

    Looks like you’ll eat like a King this Christmas
  • Zaphod BeeblebroxZaphod Beeblebrox Posts: 717
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    MK65Man wrote: »
    No electricity could well mean no internet, mobile calls, VOIP powered landlines won't work, ATM's won't work etc.

    For two days without power, I'm more concerned about all the food in my freezers than any of them.

    Me too! I’ve got a whole box of Cornettos in there!

    Not just one Cornetto then?
  • commsengcommseng Posts: 5,546
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    I would suggest it might be worth checking on your local BBC station if there are any major problems.
    I wonder if there would also be new spin offs? Heart Armageddon or Magic at the Apocalypse?
    Voice tracked as there wouldn't be any live presentation ever again.
  • PhilHPhilH Posts: 2,785
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    commseng wrote: »
    I would suggest it might be worth checking on your local BBC station if there are any major problems.
    I wonder if there would also be new spin offs? Heart Armageddon or Magic at the Apocalypse?
    Voice tracked as there wouldn't be any live presentation ever again.

    Depending on the nature of the apocalypse, a simple rebrand could give us Radio Z (pronounced 'zee').
  • philenglandphilengland Posts: 8,176
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    commseng wrote: »
    I would suggest it might be worth checking on your local BBC station if there are any major problems.
    I wonder if there would also be new spin offs? Heart Armageddon or Magic at the Apocalypse?
    Voice tracked as there wouldn't be any live presentation ever again.

    Capital Dance in to Doom :)
  • Dan_in_the_MidlandsDan_in_the_Midlands Posts: 1,129
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    I'm waiting for the first person to argue that this shows the folly of closing down the AM network!
  • RichardcoulterRichardcoulter Posts: 30,294
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    One problem that's been brought to my attention is that Smartphones no longer tend to have FM radio. I presume that they expect people to use an app for radio, but if the mobile network goes down and there's no Internet...
  • commsengcommseng Posts: 5,546
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    Then they get an FM radio out of the cupboard.
    If that doesn't work we could re-introduce town criers.
  • occyoccy Posts: 65,013
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    Who’s doing the announcements? Simon Bates, Adrian Juste or Mark Goodier 😂
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    occy wrote: »
    Who’s doing the announcements? Simon Bates, Adrian Juste or Mark Goodier 😂

    Gary King
  • MikeBrMikeBr Posts: 7,885
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    I'm waiting for the first person to argue that this shows the folly of closing down the AM network!

    We had that discussion just over a month ago when this article was first posted here.
    commseng wrote: »
    Then they get an FM radio out of the cupboard.
    If that doesn't work we could re-introduce town criers.

    Which is one piece of advice the Ukrainian Government has issued for getting emergency information when they have power cuts.

    https://twitter.com/ChrisGreenwayUK/status/1595501889386385416

  • GuineyeGuineye Posts: 355
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    One problem that's been brought to my attention is that Smartphones no longer tend to have FM radio. I presume that they expect people to use an app for radio, but if the mobile network goes down and there's no Internet...

    They generally have FM radio, but don't promote it. If an emergency was known to be on the way, instructions could be circulated.
  • RichardcoulterRichardcoulter Posts: 30,294
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    Guineye wrote: »
    One problem that's been brought to my attention is that Smartphones no longer tend to have FM radio. I presume that they expect people to use an app for radio, but if the mobile network goes down and there's no Internet...

    They generally have FM radio, but don't promote it. If an emergency was known to be on the way, instructions could be circulated.

    The guy who said this thinks that the radio function might have been disabled at the request of the telco companies.
  • Nick SchollarNick Schollar Posts: 1,091
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    Guineye wrote: »
    One problem that's been brought to my attention is that Smartphones no longer tend to have FM radio. I presume that they expect people to use an app for radio, but if the mobile network goes down and there's no Internet...

    They generally have FM radio, but don't promote it. If an emergency was known to be on the way, instructions could be circulated.

    The guy who said this thinks that the radio function might have been disabled at the request of the telco companies.

    FM radio has gradually disappeared from flagship and mid-range smartphones, with the demise of the headphone jack finishing it off. Apple of course never put FM radio on the iPhone, but most Android phones at least used to have it.

    On GSMArena, you can search for phones by spec. Of the 74 phones that have a Snapdragon 8 Gen 1, 8+ Gen 1 or 8 Gen 2, only 11 still have a headphone jack and only one (yes, one!) has FM radio, and it's an obscure Chinese phone.

    Maybe the market would be a bit different today if everyone voted with their wallets and bought that LG smartphone with DAB+ radio from ages back instead of continuing to buy Apple and Samsung.
  • RichardcoulterRichardcoulter Posts: 30,294
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    edited 01/12/22 - 20:28 #26
    Guineye wrote: »
    One problem that's been brought to my attention is that Smartphones no longer tend to have FM radio. I presume that they expect people to use an app for radio, but if the mobile network goes down and there's no Internet...

    They generally have FM radio, but don't promote it. If an emergency was known to be on the way, instructions could be circulated.

    The guy who said this thinks that the radio function might have been disabled at the request of the telco companies.

    FM radio has gradually disappeared from flagship and mid-range smartphones, with the demise of the headphone jack finishing it off. Apple of course never put FM radio on the iPhone, but most Android phones at least used to have it.

    On GSMArena, you can search for phones by spec. Of the 74 phones that have a Snapdragon 8 Gen 1, 8+ Gen 1 or 8 Gen 2, only 11 still have a headphone jack and only one (yes, one!) has FM radio, and it's an obscure Chinese phone.

    Maybe the market would be a bit different today if everyone voted with their wallets and bought that LG smartphone with DAB+ radio from ages back instead of continuing to buy Apple and Samsung.

    Thanks for the info., that specification link is especially useful.

    Well, i'll never buy anything from Sansung again after having to use their customer service for a very simple query. It's run by staff who can barely speak English with no common sense. The crap they spewed out was nonsensical and bore no resemblance at all to what was being asked!!!

    I have genuinely had more fruitful and useful conversations with a friend who is now severely mentally ill.

    After seven months of being fed irrelevant nonsense, I complained to the CEO.. I got an answer to my query and was offered a £20 supermarket voucher. I told them that that was inadequate to reflect my frustration and wasted time, but they wouldn't budge.

    I then told them that i'd accept it and never, ever buy anything from them again.
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