Wokenation Street

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edited 28/11/22 - 10:11 in Soaps #1
Christ has this soap ever been so woke?. An episode the other day involved a gang of far right, racist thugs hurling abuse and beating the shit out of a migrant worker, making monkey noises as the episode drew to a close. I guess it's at least highlighting these issues in society which is the whole point but the broader point being, it's long felt like the Corrie we grew up with.

Gone are the days of Jack & Vera and the soaps unrivalled sense of humour to everyday british life on the Salford suburbs. I don't subscribe to PC propaganda so at least it's pushing boundaries to invoke discussion around these issues but it's become more woke than EE. I've had training in awareness of radicalisation and it's pretty shocking how these groups will manipulate those vulnerable by appearing 'normal' to hide their malicious intent.
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  • KevraniKevrani Posts: 575
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    Christ has this soap ever been so woke?. An episode the other day involved a gang of far right, racist thugs hurling abuse and beating the shit out of a migrant worker, making monkey noises as the episode drew to a close. I guess it's at least highlighting these issues in society which is the whole point but the broader point being, it's long felt like the Corrie we grew up with.

    Gone are the days of Jack & Vera and the soaps unrivalled sense of humour to everyday british life on the Salford suburbs. I don't subscribe to PC propaganda so at least it's pushing boundaries to invoke discussion around these issues but it's become more woke than EE. I've had training in awareness of radicalisation and it's pretty shocking how these groups will manipulate those vulnerable by appearing 'normal' to hide their malicious intent.

    Maybe it's to engage those who haven't been trained on radicalisation awareness?
  • PopsiemiaPopsiemia Posts: 5,135
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    It’s all getting too much.
    Ruining our long running soap.
    Far too much of this sort of thing is being added to our soap’s content.
    Come on, Producers, Scriptwriters and everyone who makes these decisions….. let’s get back to the Corrie we know. Carry on much longer and even more viewers will leave.
  • KevraniKevrani Posts: 575
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    Popsiemia wrote: »
    It’s all getting too much.
    Ruining our long running soap.
    Far too much of this sort of thing is being added to our soap’s content.
    Come on, Producers, Scriptwriters and everyone who makes these decisions….. let’s get back to the Corrie we know. Carry on much longer and even more viewers will leave.

    What is getting too much? You don't actually say what is getting to you...
  • BBKINGREALITYBBKINGREALITY Posts: 3,084
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    Popsiemia wrote: »
    It’s all getting too much.
    Ruining our long running soap.
    Far too much of this sort of thing is being added to our soap’s content.
    Come on, Producers, Scriptwriters and everyone who makes these decisions….. let’s get back to the Corrie we know. Carry on much longer and even more viewers will leave.

    It's essentially a culmination of the past fews of Corrie. Everything has been building up to this because it's been 1 woke storyline after another. I thought EE was bad enough but this is taking the piss. Still at least it's still more watchable than Emmerdale farm.
  • BBKINGREALITYBBKINGREALITY Posts: 3,084
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    Charnham wrote: »
    sounds like OP likes to live in a white only safe space, where they are never troubled by the reality of racism that exists in the modern day,

    They read the Daily Mail, safe in the knowledge that anyone complaining about it is just "woke" and can be ignored.

    A almost perfect example of why such a storyline is needed.

    Actually I've faced racism myself as I'm half pakistani. I was greeted in a pub once by someone asking if I sell bombs upon giving my name. I'm not even a religious person but I have an arabic name and features due to my bloodline.
  • PopsiemiaPopsiemia Posts: 5,135
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    Kevrani wrote: »
    Popsiemia wrote: »
    It’s all getting too much.
    Ruining our long running soap.
    Far too much of this sort of thing is being added to our soap’s content.
    Come on, Producers, Scriptwriters and everyone who makes these decisions….. let’s get back to the Corrie we know. Carry on much longer and even more viewers will leave.

    What is getting too much? You don't actually say what is getting to you...

    Too much serious stuff….. hardly ever any comedy in it now.
  • BurnleyRubbleBurnleyRubble Posts: 19,210
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    The problem isn't that it's 'woke'. The problem is the storylines are utter sh*te and the bosses for too long have taken advantage of its audiences.
  • spaghetti_oopspaghetti_oop Posts: 6,219
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    Popsiemia wrote: »
    Kevrani wrote: »
    Popsiemia wrote: »
    It’s all getting too much.
    Ruining our long running soap.
    Far too much of this sort of thing is being added to our soap’s content.
    Come on, Producers, Scriptwriters and everyone who makes these decisions….. let’s get back to the Corrie we know. Carry on much longer and even more viewers will leave.

    What is getting too much? You don't actually say what is getting to you...

    Too much serious stuff….. hardly ever any comedy in it now.

    I prefer the serious stuff as the comedy is no longer funny.
  • SuikodenSuikoden Posts: 302
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    I think they could explore these issues without being so...cartoonish about it. Unfortunately I tend to find whenever TV shows or films try to be "woke" it is about as subtle as a sledgehammer and lacking in any sort of depth so it's boring to watch.
  • VinceStClairVinceStClair Posts: 15,442
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    edited 27/11/22 - 17:53 #15
    Popsiemia wrote: »
    Kevrani wrote: »
    Popsiemia wrote: »
    It’s all getting too much.
    Ruining our long running soap.
    Far too much of this sort of thing is being added to our soap’s content.
    Come on, Producers, Scriptwriters and everyone who makes these decisions….. let’s get back to the Corrie we know. Carry on much longer and even more viewers will leave.

    What is getting too much? You don't actually say what is getting to you...

    Too much serious stuff….. hardly ever any comedy in it now.

    I prefer the serious stuff as the comedy is no longer funny.

    There were complaints about too much serious stuff a few years back and they started putting in lots of comedy to 'balance' it. Problem was it was not classic light hearted and subtle Corrie comedy it was Kirk or another of the hilarious xomedy characters saying stupid things.
  • ScrabblerScrabbler Posts: 51,223
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    Anyone that uses the word woke as an insult is a moron.

    Some people dont even seem to know what the word actually means.
  • CharnhamCharnham Posts: 61,334
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    Charnham wrote: »
    sounds like OP likes to live in a white only safe space, where they are never troubled by the reality of racism that exists in the modern day,

    They read the Daily Mail, safe in the knowledge that anyone complaining about it is just "woke" and can be ignored.

    A almost perfect example of why such a storyline is needed.

    Actually I've faced racism myself as I'm half pakistani. I was greeted in a pub once by someone asking if I sell bombs upon giving my name. I'm not even a religious person but I have an arabic name and features due to my bloodline.

    so what you got against your real world experience being represented on TV?
  • SecretLifeoBeesSecretLifeoBees Posts: 50,871
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    “Woke” storylines generally aren’t the problem, it is when they are written with all the subtlety of a bull in a china shop I cringe as it often comes across amateurish. There is never a balance it always has to be the OTT approach
  • KevraniKevrani Posts: 575
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    Popsiemia wrote: »
    Kevrani wrote: »
    Popsiemia wrote: »
    It’s all getting too much.
    Ruining our long running soap.
    Far too much of this sort of thing is being added to our soap’s content.
    Come on, Producers, Scriptwriters and everyone who makes these decisions….. let’s get back to the Corrie we know. Carry on much longer and even more viewers will leave.

    What is getting too much? You don't actually say what is getting to you...

    Too much serious stuff….. hardly ever any comedy in it now.

    But it has always had serious stuff. From the word go Corrie has been a drama, not a comedy.
  • KevraniKevrani Posts: 575
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    It's interesting that those who throw "woke" around like an insult, usually can't explain what it means.

    But I can see the point some of the posters above are making: When I see an article with a soap actor and it mentions a new upcoming plot, the phrase "Issue based storyline" makes my heart sink. Because the "issues" raised are going to be done and dusted in few months and never mentioned again. When in reality it would take a lot longer, maybe even years (loved ones dying, serious medical incidents, buildings exploding etc). I could go about having too many loosely defined regular cast members, who don't have the viewers' investment, but what would be the point?
  • PopsiemiaPopsiemia Posts: 5,135
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    Popsiemia wrote: »
    Kevrani wrote: »
    Popsiemia wrote: »
    It’s all getting too much.
    Ruining our long running soap.
    Far too much of this sort of thing is being added to our soap’s content.
    Come on, Producers, Scriptwriters and everyone who makes these decisions….. let’s get back to the Corrie we know. Carry on much longer and even more viewers will leave.

    What is getting too much? You don't actually say what is getting to you...

    Too much serious stuff….. hardly ever any comedy in it now.

    I prefer the serious stuff as the comedy is no longer funny.

    There were complaints about too much serious stuff a few years back and they started putting in lots of comedy to 'balance' it. Problem was it was not classic light hearted and subtle Corrie comedy it was Kirk or another of the hilarious xomedy characters saying stupid things.

    So true, Vince. I like a bit of lightheartedness but not the so called comedy like they use for Kirk, Mary and Gail/Eileen. Eileen getting a knock on the head and changing into a saint was pathetic.
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    edited 27/11/22 - 20:05 #22
    Charnham wrote: »
    sounds like OP likes to live in a white only safe space, where they are never troubled by the reality of racism that exists in the modern day,

    They read the Daily Mail, safe in the knowledge that anyone complaining about it is just "woke" and can be ignored.

    A almost perfect example of why such a storyline is needed.

    Actually I've faced racism myself as I'm half pakistani. I was greeted in a pub once by someone asking if I sell bombs upon giving my name. I'm not even a religious person but I have an arabic name and features due to my bloodline.

    I don't understand why you would object to this awful kind of thing being reflected as an issue in the programme. And what do you mean by woke? Do you really want to criticise the programme for calling out this sort of behaviour as unacceptable?
  • VinceStClairVinceStClair Posts: 15,442
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    The problem with issues plots is when they come across as sermonizing and the plot goes clunky like when all suddenly started going on about how they would like a warm welcome if they ever had to flee the country and become a refugee. It seemed weird when even Ches started saying it.
  • PyramidbreadPyramidbread Posts: 10,448
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    Woke is the stupidest buzzword I've ever heard. It's such a lazy term that is used as a catch all for "THIS SHOW HAS OPINIONS THAT OPPOSE MINE"
  • Kenzie70Kenzie70 Posts: 1,590
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    All soaps want to tell you off through different stories nowadays.
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