how much in your season ticket holder. I want to get better variety. Yeah Tony. I think the I think freshness and scheduling no matter the sport is really healthy for everybody involved when we played Missouri *** few years ago. It was I believe it was the first time they asked the Missouri alum over here. I think it was the first time they've been to Bryant Denny stadium and there was *** lot of anticipation about that. That was exciting. I know the story gets told about when Kentucky went to ***. And M. Football *** few years ago for the first time and just the excitement of from the Kentucky fan base. Freshness is good keeping things alive in that manner. I think it's going to do nothing but help college athletics continue to make sure we stay strong and relevant conference transferred in Alabama moving there first. The neighbors. Why did Alabama? I think that's it what we talked about that because of basically that's what the N. C. Double *** rule is and making sure that we're on ***. Level playing field. I think there's *** good debate on both sides about that to where you know anytime we put something forward we want to hear what everybody else has to say. We'll see where we land on that here in the coming days. But uh that was that was the thought process behind that. So we have an opportunity if young men are uh want to come into transferring from one sec school to another. They have that opportunity the same way that you go to other conferences. Well I'll tell you what, I don't know how you can increase the rate of transfers much more than where we are right now to go back to scheduling for secondary. The short term of the eight verse nine. I get that. But the implication is about getting rid of divisions and Dragon said yesterday, it's going to be probably one division format regardless. I think that's *** good thing since that came out of the pac 12 as *** proposal and they already made their move as well. They were there in the long run. If you play this out, you think that that could actually be *** catalyst to further realignment expansion conferences, get rid of the provisional aspect of geographic aspect of. Yeah, I mean, who if you would have said to me five years ago that Oklahoma, Oklahoma State could split up. I would have said, I don't see that. So right now, I don't think you can ever discount any possibility. I don't think there's *** huge desire right now to continue to see musical chairs in college sports, Could it happen? Yes, but I don't think that's, I don't think that scenario as far as getting rid of divisions is going to drive that any more than anything else. Right. Jimbo told reporters to look into your coaches dig it up. What was your reaction? Um, I think coach fisher was he, He was fired up and uh, you know, I think he has worked with coach Saban and obviously he has benefited from working with Coach Saban, just like *** lot of other coaches have and, and so I, I know we feel very good about our compliance and what we do at Alabama and that's, that's been in the past and continue in the future. The discussion with you guys as far as NHL and what you guys can do so many changing things right now. Yeah, the world is evolving and I, and I l is here, it's *** reality, There were no guardrails put in place and, and so it's, it is created, it has created new challenges, but those challenges aren't gonna go away right now. And so what we have to do is make sure that we're open minded that we are following whatever the guidelines are that are in place. I do think, you know, the cops, I'm gonna go over to the transfer side When we started talking about the transfer portal and there were *** lot of advocates and hey, this is great. Coaches can move. 80s can move, I moved okay. And so they should be that same flexibility. I get that in concept. The, the idea of it is healthy. There's *** few things, one I know all of you when you were 18-22 years old, you made great decisions at all times, right. You know, I know we used to be surprised what I did. I do think, having, having things in place to learn how to fight through adversity and challenge is *** good thing and part of the maturation process of any young person? Okay. Number two, and the story that's not getting told *** whole lot of it, some of you have paid attention to it, but there's *** lot of young men and young women who have gone in the transfer portal that don't have another place to go to because *** new opportunity or another another young man or young woman is filling that role at times. It's changing the recruitment of high school kids. Is that *** good thing? One of the things I love about what I get to be *** part of is watching 18 year olds come in and turn into 22 year olds and being and hopefully and having *** little bit of *** positive influence on and so I think with N I L. It's reality and what and what's happened is you hear all of these stories that are out there, some of them are really good. We have young men and young women are program who are benefiting greatly from N. I. L, opportunities that are market driven, that are what this was intended to be. But what I also think is happening is that there are people around the young men and young women who will say go talk to your coach and say this school is offering me this, what are you going to do? You have no way of verifying that. Okay. That's *** really hard thing to try to respond. And so is there *** way to have some checks and balances in there to say this is legitimate nil opportunities, there's actions for what they're doing and that's what this was intended to do. And I think that's what when, you know, when coach Saban talked about it, there's just so much speculation, some of which is accurate, some of which is very inaccurate. And so what we're trying to do is find *** way to have this be *** long term healthy solution for college sports for the young men and the young women that are involved in it, that they have good legitimate opportunities and that there and and that broad based college programs can continue to exist in this new environment, which I think everybody here hopefully would be supportive and want to see happen. I know I do feel like progress has been made this week. I don't know. I don't know if the progress is going to get, I don't know at this point if if it can be solved in *** few days of destiny, but we're continuing to be solved. I do think that we're going to need some help. Um Mhm. You're going to have opportunities as *** conference, I think for what has been shown by the courts at this point to do some things you can't do it collectively as *** whole, like all the N C double ***, but will there be opportunities for conferences to try to create *** path to that? I think in time, but it's not just as simple of *** couple of days of getting that all figured out. There's *** lot of moving parts in it that we have to be very respectful of that, that you don't end up getting more litigation added to it because of, you know, because of ***, of *** rash quick decision, the threat of olympic sports in the curriculum. Honestly, we at Alabama are very committed to having broad-based programs. We have 21 sports. And uh, by the way, Pat, we do train in the Black Warrior River, listen to this podcast when I'm walking sometimes um, with with *** rowing team. And but one of the great things about college sports is it is *** great diversity of sports and kids from all different backgrounds coming together for the Alabama crimson tide, the Washington huskies and Nebraska cornhuskers all across the country. Right. And it, and it's one of the great things of that we do to bring people together in our society of all different backgrounds and I, and I think the leadership in college sports wants to bless you, wants to see that continue. And I, and I think you go pull all the athletic directors, all the, all the college presidents and chancellors, we want to see that continue and but as much as people think there is an infinite supply of money, I haven't found that you know, all those gold bars hiding under Coleman coliseum yet and when I do find them I'll let you know, but we all have to manage our resources within our within our university environment to get back to coach Saban's comments from *** couple of weeks ago. I'm curious what your reaction was when this initial comments that started the back and forth coach. Saban is very passionate about the game of college football. I sat on the N. C. Double *** football oversight committee for four or five years and he and I will go talk about different issues that were going on about college football. And I remember one of the first things we ever talked about was kick returns and the safety on kick returns and I just gave him *** very quick Lion said, hey we need to get some feedback on this. This one. He called me the next day with detailed thoughts About five minutes long of kickoff returns and the safety well being of the student athletes, the health of the game and so where he comes here and there would be times with him. I would say to him, hey what you're saying here may not be the very best thing for Alabama and he and he and he would often say, but this is right for the game of football. This is right for college sports. And I think he deserves *** lot of credit for the things he says and does out there publicly is not only looking at what's right for our program and our university, but he's also looking at it from in our student athletes, but he's also looking at it right for the game of football going forward.