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Worst performance by the officials this season

PictoPicto Posts: 24,270
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This thread might seem a bit harsh but it's always the bad performances we remember. When the officials have a good game it doesn't really register, which is as it should be. I've always been told that if you don't notice the ref he's usually had a good game.

When i say officials, i refer to the onfield officials plus VAR.

Regarding the bad performances, we are spoilt for choice this season.

I am most familiar with decisions where my team is involved, i'm obviously aware of other bad performances throughout the season, but i will start with a performance where Liverpool was involved.

The Spurs v Liverpool game. Paul Tierney (ref), Chris Cavanagh (VAR).
Harry Kane wasn't sent off for his dangerous studs up challenge because Robertson jumped and Kane only caught his ankle, and Jota wasn't awarded a penalty when he was bundled over because he steadied himself to shoot. Both reviewed later as clear and obvious errors by the ref.

I could list a hundred more mistakes but I would like to hear everyone elses opinions on this matter.

Thanks

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    Mark FMark F Posts: 54,062
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    edited 23/05/22 - 14:54 #2
    Well guess the handball by Rodri not given in the Man C v Everton game which effectively decided the title ?

    Everton got a public apology for it too which is very unusual .
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    PictoPicto Posts: 24,270
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    Mark F wrote: »
    Well guess the handball by Rodri not given in the Man C v Everton game which effectively decided the title ?

    Everton got a public apology for it too which is very unusual .

    I sometimes wonder if any other apologies have been issued that were not made public. If I were to hazard a guess, i would say yes.
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    kendogukkendoguk Posts: 13,804
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    Mark F wrote: »
    Well guess the handball by Rodri not given in the Man C v Everton game which effectively decided the title ?

    Everton got a public apology for it too which is very unusual .

    The 38 league games decided the title.
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    Mark FMark F Posts: 54,062
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    Picto wrote: »
    Mark F wrote: »
    Well guess the handball by Rodri not given in the Man C v Everton game which effectively decided the title ?

    Everton got a public apology for it too which is very unusual .

    I sometimes wonder if any other apologies have been issued that were not made public. If I were to hazard a guess, i would say yes.

    Managers often say they get someone ringing up so definitely does happen.
    kendoguk wrote: »
    Mark F wrote: »
    Well guess the handball by Rodri not given in the Man C v Everton game which effectively decided the title ?

    Everton got a public apology for it too which is very unusual .

    The 38 league games decided the title.

    Fair point but we hear fans and managers say so often if this and that had gone another way …
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    mikeydddmikeyddd Posts: 11,684
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    kendoguk wrote: »
    Mark F wrote: »
    Well guess the handball by Rodri not given in the Man C v Everton game which effectively decided the title ?

    Everton got a public apology for it too which is very unusual .

    The 38 league games decided the title.

    So you don’t think poor officiating has any affect on the outcome of the league. 760 games and not one error that affects the outcome of a game. And no it doesn’t even itself out over the season.
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    kendogukkendoguk Posts: 13,804
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    edited 23/05/22 - 15:50 #7
    mikeyddd wrote: »
    kendoguk wrote: »
    Mark F wrote: »
    Well guess the handball by Rodri not given in the Man C v Everton game which effectively decided the title ?

    Everton got a public apology for it too which is very unusual .

    The 38 league games decided the title.

    So you don’t think poor officiating has any affect on the outcome of the league. 760 games and not one error that affects the outcome of a game. And no it doesn’t even itself out over the season.

    No i dont think 1 bad refeering descsion has decided a title.

    Your also making 2 different points there, an error can of course affect the outcome of 1 game but not an entire season.

    And where is there 760 games?
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    Tel69Tel69 Posts: 27,008
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    As a collective they’ve been rubbish, the more technology we give them the more inept they become. Too many games are decided poor officials. Even itself out over the season? Nah, not even close.
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    mikeydddmikeyddd Posts: 11,684
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    kendoguk wrote: »
    mikeyddd wrote: »
    kendoguk wrote: »
    Mark F wrote: »
    Well guess the handball by Rodri not given in the Man C v Everton game which effectively decided the title ?

    Everton got a public apology for it too which is very unusual .

    The 38 league games decided the title.

    So you don’t think poor officiating has any affect on the outcome of the league. 760 games and not one error that affects the outcome of a game. And no it doesn’t even itself out over the season.

    No i dont think 1 bad refeering descsion has decided a title.

    And where is there 760 games?

    Have I double counted? You don’t think or you know that to be a fact, because if Everton for example had been relegated Im pretty sure they would be almost unanimous in their opinion that if the Rhodri handball had be given they could have survived, and there’s been many more similar errors.
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    mikeydddmikeyddd Posts: 11,684
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    edited 23/05/22 - 15:56 #10
    Tel69 wrote: »
    As a collective they’ve been rubbish, the more technology we give them the more inept they become. Too many games are decided poor officials. Even itself out over the season? Nah, not even close.

    Football is lottery more so now than ever. But there seems to be nothing that can be done about. VAR was supposed to make it better, but it hasn’t.
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    kendogukkendoguk Posts: 13,804
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    mikeyddd wrote: »
    kendoguk wrote: »
    mikeyddd wrote: »
    kendoguk wrote: »
    Mark F wrote: »
    Well guess the handball by Rodri not given in the Man C v Everton game which effectively decided the title ?

    Everton got a public apology for it too which is very unusual .

    The 38 league games decided the title.

    So you don’t think poor officiating has any affect on the outcome of the league. 760 games and not one error that affects the outcome of a game. And no it doesn’t even itself out over the season.

    No i dont think 1 bad refeering descsion has decided a title.

    And where is there 760 games?

    Have I double counted? You don’t think or you know that to be a fact, because if Everton for example had been relegated Im pretty sure they would be almost unanimous in their opinion that if the Rhodri handball had be given they could have survived, and there’s been many more similar errors.

    They had 38 games to avoid relegation themselves though.
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    Samuel_Samuel_ Posts: 7,818
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    edited 23/05/22 - 16:00 #12
    mikeyddd wrote: »
    kendoguk wrote: »
    Mark F wrote: »
    Well guess the handball by Rodri not given in the Man C v Everton game which effectively decided the title ?

    Everton got a public apology for it too which is very unusual .

    The 38 league games decided the title.

    So you don’t think poor officiating has any affect on the outcome of the league. 760 games and not one error that affects the outcome of a game. And no it doesn’t even itself out over the season.

    I think a poor refereeing decision has a minimal effect over the course of a 38 match season. It’s an easy excuse to make for a manager or supporter, but teams finish a league season where they deserve to.

    Anyone that moans about the standard of officiating in the Premier League needs to watch a few Scottish games. A few referees up here have been promoted far above a level they can handle (the main culprit is only there because his dad was a FIFA official 20 years ago, and he’s an abysmal referee), and so many games end up completely out of the referee’s control. And we’re getting VAR up here from next season, god help us all.

    Main thing to remember is if you have a bad referee, they’re bad for every team not just your own.

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    mikeydddmikeyddd Posts: 11,684
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    kendoguk wrote: »
    mikeyddd wrote: »
    kendoguk wrote: »
    mikeyddd wrote: »
    kendoguk wrote: »
    Mark F wrote: »
    Well guess the handball by Rodri not given in the Man C v Everton game which effectively decided the title ?

    Everton got a public apology for it too which is very unusual .

    The 38 league games decided the title.

    So you don’t think poor officiating has any affect on the outcome of the league. 760 games and not one error that affects the outcome of a game. And no it doesn’t even itself out over the season.

    No i dont think 1 bad refeering descsion has decided a title.

    And where is there 760 games?

    Have I double counted? You don’t think or you know that to be a fact, because if Everton for example had been relegated Im pretty sure they would be almost unanimous in their opinion that if the Rhodri handball had be given they could have survived, and there’s been many more similar errors.

    They had 38 games to avoid relegation themselves though.

    It doesn’t work like that though, your competitors had 38 but in practice you only had 37 your they had an advantage, even worse if the bad decision was against a competitor. Yes we all know football isn’t that simple, but to say bad officiating doesn’t affect outcomes is naive in my opinion.
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    mikeydddmikeyddd Posts: 11,684
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    Samuel_ wrote: »
    mikeyddd wrote: »
    kendoguk wrote: »
    Mark F wrote: »
    Well guess the handball by Rodri not given in the Man C v Everton game which effectively decided the title ?

    Everton got a public apology for it too which is very unusual .

    The 38 league games decided the title.

    So you don’t think poor officiating has any affect on the outcome of the league. 760 games and not one error that affects the outcome of a game. And no it doesn’t even itself out over the season.

    I think a poor refereeing decision has a minimal effect over the course of a 38 match season. It’s an easy excuse to make for a manager or supporter, but teams finish a league season where they deserve to.

    Anyone that moans about the standard of officiating in the Premier League needs to watch a few Scottish games. A few referees up here have been promoted far above a level they can handle (the main culprit is only there because his dad was a FIFA official 20 years ago, and he’s an abysmal referee), and so many games end up completely out of the referee’s control. And we’re getting VAR up here from next season, god help us all.

    Main thing to remember is if you have a bad referee, they’re bad for every team not just your own.

    But even a bad ref doesn’t make a bad decision every game and sometimes they make several. The lottery is, are they going to make a bad decision in your game. And it doesn’t mean if your team gets a bad decision this week then fate will ensure you get one in your favour to even it up.
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    Darren LethemDarren Lethem Posts: 61,699
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    Two threads in this forum which would make absolutely nobody want to take up the job of being an official. It’s like being a councillor, everyone thinks they can do it whilst sitting on their fat arse, but when it comes to actually doing it, they won’t.

    It’s all abuse and little praise.
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    Mark FMark F Posts: 54,062
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    Two threads in this forum which would make absolutely nobody want to take up the job of being an official. It’s like being a councillor, everyone thinks they can do it whilst sitting on their fat arse, but when it comes to actually doing it, they won’t.

    It’s all abuse and little praise.

    That is true .

    Even worse at grassroots level with officials being attacked by parents in kids games .

    What is all that about ?
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    mikeydddmikeyddd Posts: 11,684
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    Two threads in this forum which would make absolutely nobody want to take up the job of being an official. It’s like being a councillor, everyone thinks they can do it whilst sitting on their fat arse, but when it comes to actually doing it, they won’t.

    It’s all abuse and little praise.

    I qualified as a ref and reffed kids games, quite some time ago now though.

    I doubt many from the PGMOL read this thread which we are mostly talking about, and I’m pretty sure they already know how most football fans think. I don’t think it’s abuse to say refs make mistakes.
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    Darren LethemDarren Lethem Posts: 61,699
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    mikeyddd wrote: »
    Two threads in this forum which would make absolutely nobody want to take up the job of being an official. It’s like being a councillor, everyone thinks they can do it whilst sitting on their fat arse, but when it comes to actually doing it, they won’t.

    It’s all abuse and little praise.

    I qualified as a ref and reffed kids games, quite some time ago now though.

    I doubt many from the PGMOL read this thread which we are mostly talking about, and I’m pretty sure they already know how most football fans think. I don’t think it’s abuse to say refs make mistakes.

    You don’t think it’s abuse ? This from another thread in football

    What a corrupt fat useless excuse of a ref this bloke is - clusterf**k decision for Leicester's opening goal, blatant yellow cards ignored, stops play when Leicester gets injured whilst continues when Saints player on ground

    Also look in a certain fans thread and you’ll see them called corrupt frequently.

    So yes it is abuse

    Too many fans think abuse is ok. Watching the matches last week shows that it so isn’t.
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    mikeydddmikeyddd Posts: 11,684
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    edited 23/05/22 - 17:35 #19
    mikeyddd wrote: »
    Two threads in this forum which would make absolutely nobody want to take up the job of being an official. It’s like being a councillor, everyone thinks they can do it whilst sitting on their fat arse, but when it comes to actually doing it, they won’t.

    It’s all abuse and little praise.

    I qualified as a ref and reffed kids games, quite some time ago now though.

    I doubt many from the PGMOL read this thread which we are mostly talking about, and I’m pretty sure they already know how most football fans think. I don’t think it’s abuse to say refs make mistakes.

    You don’t think it’s abuse ? This from another thread in football

    What a corrupt fat useless excuse of a ref this bloke is - clusterf**k decision for Leicester's opening goal, blatant yellow cards ignored, stops play when Leicester gets injured whilst continues when Saints player on ground

    Also look in a certain fans thread and you’ll see them called corrupt frequently.

    So yes it is abuse

    Too many fans think abuse is ok. Watching the matches last week shows that it so isn’t.

    Well I was talking about this thread obviously


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