I love how she was having a go at Liam for wanting to kill Meena. But she seems to have forgotten about her chasing Maya through the woods and wanting to kill her after finding out what she did to Jacob
So are you suggesting she should be encouraging him to kill Meena?
I don’t think that’s what Owen is suggesting, it’s probably more along the lines of
“Ok Liam sweetheart, I understand how you feel because I wanted to kill Maya when she groomed Jacob, but on reflection, it’s probably not the best idea!”
But the thing is Leyla, like every other single soap character in history, has been struck down with Hypocrititis. It’s an unfortunate condition but soaps would have no storylines without it😞.
Liam's child was murdered so of course he wants revenge on her killer.
Leyla wanted Maya dead after the grooming storyline so how can she judge Liam for feeling the same over the woman who killed his daughter.
Cain also confused me because he talked Liam out of it and yet a few weeks ago he intended to let Ellis freeze to death over the accident with Kyle.
Cain knows that Liam is better than him though, that's the difference. Liam hasn't been a violent thug all his life and murder would be out of character for him.
Short memories, hypocrisy etc. in soaps are common.
Obviously it's not remotely on the same level as wanting to kill someone, but I remember not feeling sorry at all for Leyla when Pete cheated on her with Priya and thinking that she had no right whatsoever to feel 'aggrieved', given her own track record of cheating with the likes of Alicia and Megan victims of that.
I do like Leyla a lot more now than I did a few years ago and before the Maya storyline climax though. Previously I felt that there was zero character growth whatsoever, as she continually reverted to type and was always beset by relationship drama. I feel that over the last couple of years including since getting together with Liam, she has finally 'matured' and become both a more likeable and interesting character.
So are you suggesting she should be encouraging him to kill Meena?
I don’t think that’s what Owen is suggesting, it’s probably more along the lines of
“Ok Liam sweetheart, I understand how you feel because I wanted to kill Maya when she groomed Jacob, but on reflection, it’s probably not the best idea!”
But the thing is Leyla, like every other single soap character in history, has been struck down with Hypocrititis. It’s an unfortunate condition but soaps would have no storylines without it😞.
Liam's child was murdered so of course he wants revenge on her killer.
Leyla wanted Maya dead after the grooming storyline so how can she judge Liam for feeling the same over the woman who killed his daughter.
Cain also confused me because he talked Liam out of it and yet a few weeks ago he intended to let Ellis freeze to death over the accident with Kyle.
Which was also an insane and bonkers move on the writers part! When Cain thought he accidently killed Joe Tate, the guilt almost made him have a mental breakdown. However we are meant to believe that after experiencing that with Joe he would then with malice and forethought be totally fine with murdering Ellis.
Liam's child was murdered so of course he wants revenge on her killer.
Leyla wanted Maya dead after the grooming storyline so how can she judge Liam for feeling the same over the woman who killed his daughter.
Cain also confused me because he talked Liam out of it and yet a few weeks ago he intended to let Ellis freeze to death over the accident with Kyle.
Which was also an insane and bonkers move on the writers part! When Cain thought he accidently killed Joe Tate, the guilt almost made him have a mental breakdown. However we are meant to believe that after experiencing that with Joe he would then with malice and forethought be totally fine with murdering Ellis.
I never blame the actors, or the characters for this 'amnesia', this is all down to the script writers. In fact, anything factually incorrect is down to them,they need to do better, a lot better.
Liam's child was murdered so of course he wants revenge on her killer.
Leyla wanted Maya dead after the grooming storyline so how can she judge Liam for feeling the same over the woman who killed his daughter.
Cain also confused me because he talked Liam out of it and yet a few weeks ago he intended to let Ellis freeze to death over the accident with Kyle.
Which was also an insane and bonkers move on the writers part! When Cain thought he accidently killed Joe Tate, the guilt almost made him have a mental breakdown. However we are meant to believe that after experiencing that with Joe he would then with malice and forethought be totally fine with murdering Ellis.
I never blame the actors, or the characters for this 'amnesia', this is all down to the script writers. In fact, anything factually incorrect is down to them,they need to do better, a lot better.
Same here, that's why I said it was an insane and bonkers move on the writers part
It isn’t hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is claiming to be superior than you actually are. Leyla and Cain have been consistently telling Liam that he is better than this.
What they would do is irrelevant particularly in a case where someone is threatening murder or asking you to murder for them. All anyone could possibly do in such a case is talk them out if it surely and mentioning all the times you felt murderous is hardly going to help with that.
I love how she was having a go at Liam for wanting to kill Meena. But she seems to have forgotten about her chasing Maya through the woods and wanting to kill her after finding out what she did to Jacob
Selective memory syndrome is commonplace in soapland . Leyla will now have zero recollection of the Maya stuff.
It isn’t hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is claiming to be superior than you actually are. Leyla and Cain have been consistently telling Liam that he is better than this.
What they would do is irrelevant particularly in a case where someone is threatening murder or asking you to murder for them. All anyone could possibly do in such a case is talk them out if it surely and mentioning all the times you felt murderous is hardly going to help with that.
Exactly, do people expect her to support Liam in his attempt to obtain a firearm and kill someone? Just because she has felt a similar rage towards Maya?
If anything, her experience with Maya would make it even more realistic that she's worried by Liam's plans. I'm sure she is glad now that she didn't get her hands on Maya and having come out the other side, she'll know that Liam wouldn't gain any long-term satisfaction from harming Meena either.
She's putting things in perspective for him and that's what he needs. I wouldn't call it hypocritical at all.
It isn’t hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is claiming to be superior than you actually are. Leyla and Cain have been consistently telling Liam that he is better than this.
What they would do is irrelevant particularly in a case where someone is threatening murder or asking you to murder for them. All anyone could possibly do in such a case is talk them out if it surely and mentioning all the times you felt murderous is hardly going to help with that.
Exactly, do people expect her to support Liam in his attempt to obtain a firearm and kill someone? Just because she has felt a similar rage towards Maya?
If anything, her experience with Maya would make it even more realistic that she's worried by Liam's plans. I'm sure she is glad now that she didn't get her hands on Maya and having come out the other side, she'll know that Liam wouldn't gain any long-term satisfaction from harming Meena either.
She's putting things in perspective for him and that's what he needs. I wouldn't call it hypocritical at all.
She needs to support Liam rather than chastise him. If a parents child is murdered they are consumed with grief, anger and want revenge on the killer.
The person Liam was is gone, he's now filled with uncontrollable grief and rage. Instead of acting shocked that he wants kill his daughters murderer she should understand how he feels, as she once did and talk him out of it.
It isn’t hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is claiming to be superior than you actually are. Leyla and Cain have been consistently telling Liam that he is better than this.
What they would do is irrelevant particularly in a case where someone is threatening murder or asking you to murder for them. All anyone could possibly do in such a case is talk them out if it surely and mentioning all the times you felt murderous is hardly going to help with that.
Exactly, do people expect her to support Liam in his attempt to obtain a firearm and kill someone? Just because she has felt a similar rage towards Maya?
If anything, her experience with Maya would make it even more realistic that she's worried by Liam's plans. I'm sure she is glad now that she didn't get her hands on Maya and having come out the other side, she'll know that Liam wouldn't gain any long-term satisfaction from harming Meena either.
She's putting things in perspective for him and that's what he needs. I wouldn't call it hypocritical at all.
She needs to support Liam rather than chastise him. If a parents child is murdered they are consumed with grief, anger and want revenge on the killer.
The person Liam was is gone, he's now filled with uncontrollable grief and rage. Instead of acting shocked that he wants kill his daughters murderer she should understand how he feels, as she once did and talk him out of it.
I thought she was very understanding and supportive so I don't agree there.
Also, why wouldn't she be shocked? She overheard her husband begging for a gun. I'd be pretty shocked if my mild-mannered husband did that too, even in those circumstances.
Once she recovered from the shock, I thought she dealt with it as well as anyone could have. And she did talk him out of it, he agreed with her that he wasn't that person. She persuaded him that he was a good man and that Lianna wouldn't have wanted him to go after Meena so I'd say she got the result needed (unless anything happened afterwards, I haven't seen tonight's episode)
It isn’t hypocrisy. Hypocrisy is claiming to be superior than you actually are. Leyla and Cain have been consistently telling Liam that he is better than this.
What they would do is irrelevant particularly in a case where someone is threatening murder or asking you to murder for them. All anyone could possibly do in such a case is talk them out if it surely and mentioning all the times you felt murderous is hardly going to help with that.
Exactly, do people expect her to support Liam in his attempt to obtain a firearm and kill someone? Just because she has felt a similar rage towards Maya?
If anything, her experience with Maya would make it even more realistic that she's worried by Liam's plans. I'm sure she is glad now that she didn't get her hands on Maya and having come out the other side, she'll know that Liam wouldn't gain any long-term satisfaction from harming Meena either.
She's putting things in perspective for him and that's what he needs. I wouldn't call it hypocritical at all.
She needs to support Liam rather than chastise him. If a parents child is murdered they are consumed with grief, anger and want revenge on the killer.
The person Liam was is gone, he's now filled with uncontrollable grief and rage. Instead of acting shocked that he wants kill his daughters murderer she should understand how he feels, as she once did and talk him out of it.
I thought she was very understanding and supportive so I don't agree there.
Also, why wouldn't she be shocked? She overheard her husband begging for a gun. I'd be pretty shocked if my mild-mannered husband did that too, even in those circumstances.
Once she recovered from the shock, I thought she dealt with it as well as anyone could have. And she did talk him out of it, he agreed with her that he wasn't that person. She persuaded him that he was a good man and that Lianna wouldn't have wanted him to go after Meena so I'd say she got the result needed (unless anything happened afterwards, I haven't seen tonight's episode)
I agree. I didn't see any chastising. In fact, I quite liked this more grown up version of Leyla.
I agree that Leyla has been great and incredibly supportive towards Liam.
Until 2018 or early 2019, I was thinking that the character was increasingly a waste of space and was basically involved in the same storylines, 'man drama' and her persistently cheating, over and over again. Big yawn.
The storyline with Maya and her protectiveness towards Jacob finally allowed her branch out, and she has really come on leaps at bounds with Liam and especially during the past 6 months. I also quite liked her interactions with Andrea as well. The old Leyla probably would have got bored, made everything about her, and run into the arms of another man.
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I don’t think that’s what Owen is suggesting, it’s probably more along the lines of
“Ok Liam sweetheart, I understand how you feel because I wanted to kill Maya when she groomed Jacob, but on reflection, it’s probably not the best idea!”
But the thing is Leyla, like every other single soap character in history, has been struck down with Hypocrititis. It’s an unfortunate condition but soaps would have no storylines without it😞.
Leyla wanted Maya dead after the grooming storyline so how can she judge Liam for feeling the same over the woman who killed his daughter.
Cain also confused me because he talked Liam out of it and yet a few weeks ago he intended to let Ellis freeze to death over the accident with Kyle.
Cain knows that Liam is better than him though, that's the difference. Liam hasn't been a violent thug all his life and murder would be out of character for him.
Obviously it's not remotely on the same level as wanting to kill someone, but I remember not feeling sorry at all for Leyla when Pete cheated on her with Priya and thinking that she had no right whatsoever to feel 'aggrieved', given her own track record of cheating with the likes of Alicia and Megan victims of that.
I do like Leyla a lot more now than I did a few years ago and before the Maya storyline climax though. Previously I felt that there was zero character growth whatsoever, as she continually reverted to type and was always beset by relationship drama. I feel that over the last couple of years including since getting together with Liam, she has finally 'matured' and become both a more likeable and interesting character.
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Which was also an insane and bonkers move on the writers part! When Cain thought he accidently killed Joe Tate, the guilt almost made him have a mental breakdown. However we are meant to believe that after experiencing that with Joe he would then with malice and forethought be totally fine with murdering Ellis.
I never blame the actors, or the characters for this 'amnesia', this is all down to the script writers. In fact, anything factually incorrect is down to them,they need to do better, a lot better.
Same here, that's why I said it was an insane and bonkers move on the writers part
Liam was actually planning on murdering her at a later date. I'm sure Layla didn't plan on it.
What they would do is irrelevant particularly in a case where someone is threatening murder or asking you to murder for them. All anyone could possibly do in such a case is talk them out if it surely and mentioning all the times you felt murderous is hardly going to help with that.
Selective memory syndrome is commonplace in soapland
Exactly, do people expect her to support Liam in his attempt to obtain a firearm and kill someone? Just because she has felt a similar rage towards Maya?
If anything, her experience with Maya would make it even more realistic that she's worried by Liam's plans. I'm sure she is glad now that she didn't get her hands on Maya and having come out the other side, she'll know that Liam wouldn't gain any long-term satisfaction from harming Meena either.
She's putting things in perspective for him and that's what he needs. I wouldn't call it hypocritical at all.
She needs to support Liam rather than chastise him. If a parents child is murdered they are consumed with grief, anger and want revenge on the killer.
The person Liam was is gone, he's now filled with uncontrollable grief and rage. Instead of acting shocked that he wants kill his daughters murderer she should understand how he feels, as she once did and talk him out of it.
I thought she was very understanding and supportive so I don't agree there.
Also, why wouldn't she be shocked? She overheard her husband begging for a gun. I'd be pretty shocked if my mild-mannered husband did that too, even in those circumstances.
Once she recovered from the shock, I thought she dealt with it as well as anyone could have. And she did talk him out of it, he agreed with her that he wasn't that person. She persuaded him that he was a good man and that Lianna wouldn't have wanted him to go after Meena so I'd say she got the result needed (unless anything happened afterwards, I haven't seen tonight's episode)
I agree. I didn't see any chastising. In fact, I quite liked this more grown up version of Leyla.
Until 2018 or early 2019, I was thinking that the character was increasingly a waste of space and was basically involved in the same storylines, 'man drama' and her persistently cheating, over and over again. Big yawn.
The storyline with Maya and her protectiveness towards Jacob finally allowed her branch out, and she has really come on leaps at bounds with Liam and especially during the past 6 months. I also quite liked her interactions with Andrea as well. The old Leyla probably would have got bored, made everything about her, and run into the arms of another man.