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I’m still shocked that the producers ever thought this was a good idea. They have absolutely no chemistry together at all, and that’s not the only issue. I’m surprised people don’t complain about it enough!
First and foremost, there is a serious lack of chemistry between Honey & Jay. That is mainly due to the fact that we’ve seen them together on screen for years, and it’s always felt like a natural friendship, almost like Honey as a maternal figure to Jay. I refuse to believe that in the real world, they would start dating. Their scenes are not romantic at all, and it genuinely just feels more like a friendship, or even a mother-son relationship in certain scenes. That brings me onto the second issue, the age gap. Now, whilst I think an age gap isn’t always a bad thing, the main thing that sticks out in this pairing is of course the fact that Honey is the ex of Billy, who more or less acted as Jay’s father figure for most of his teenage and adult life. Maybe if Jay & Honey were different characters with no connections, it would be believable. But it’s not. Just imagine if Whitney started dating Ricky. Or if Peter started dating Jane. There’s all sorts of problems with it.
I really hope that Chris Clenshaw splits them up immediately when he takes over. Personally, I would have Billy & Honey reunite. They just worked well together, despite their flaws. There’s so much potential for a family unit and presence with them, considering Will & Janet are now teenagers. Give them some decent material as they get older, and it will be much more interesting to see Billy & Honey navigate their children’s issues as a couple than it is to see Billy & Jay arguing all the time. They have the potential to be like the Fowlers in the early days, or even the Butchers. It was nice having Jay as an older sibling-like figure for Will & Janet, but now that’s ruined. I’d personally pair Jay with someone like Frankie, I think they’d be good together.
Jay & Honey need to be split up, sooner rather than later!
First and foremost, there is a serious lack of chemistry between Honey & Jay. That is mainly due to the fact that we’ve seen them together on screen for years, and it’s always felt like a natural friendship, almost like Honey as a maternal figure to Jay. I refuse to believe that in the real world, they would start dating. Their scenes are not romantic at all, and it genuinely just feels more like a friendship, or even a mother-son relationship in certain scenes. That brings me onto the second issue, the age gap. Now, whilst I think an age gap isn’t always a bad thing, the main thing that sticks out in this pairing is of course the fact that Honey is the ex of Billy, who more or less acted as Jay’s father figure for most of his teenage and adult life. Maybe if Jay & Honey were different characters with no connections, it would be believable. But it’s not. Just imagine if Whitney started dating Ricky. Or if Peter started dating Jane. There’s all sorts of problems with it.
I really hope that Chris Clenshaw splits them up immediately when he takes over. Personally, I would have Billy & Honey reunite. They just worked well together, despite their flaws. There’s so much potential for a family unit and presence with them, considering Will & Janet are now teenagers. Give them some decent material as they get older, and it will be much more interesting to see Billy & Honey navigate their children’s issues as a couple than it is to see Billy & Jay arguing all the time. They have the potential to be like the Fowlers in the early days, or even the Butchers. It was nice having Jay as an older sibling-like figure for Will & Janet, but now that’s ruined. I’d personally pair Jay with someone like Frankie, I think they’d be good together.
Jay & Honey need to be split up, sooner rather than later!
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I find it bemusing people think the pairing works and is credible. It's disgusting and sickening and that's the politically correct way of putting it.
Jay lives on past glories from over a decade ago and I don't buy that it is all the writers fault, he is just not that good as well.
Honey should have never returned in the first place, she really isn't as sweet as she is made out to be.
I find the fact she cared for him in some form rather creepy. Lord knows what Will Mitchell would really think if they bothered to explain it.
BIB - I wish they would. He’s such a non entity.
I think it reflects part of the actors real life, When Jamie Borthwick first started he had a teenage crush on Emma which she thought was sweet but didn't encourage. As for Honey and Billy getting back together I can't see it happening because Honey is determined and principled and Billy has let her down and betrayed more times than enough. The only reason she still engages with him is because he's the father of her children.
Last night proved that being friends with Suki has done far more for Honey's character than dating Jay. The big reason why it doesn't work is that it was conceived solely on the basis that it would cause ructions with Billy. There was no other reason. And frankly I don't see a way for Billy and Jay to be the same again. As for Honey and Billy, putting them back together after this mess is going to be hard work, if that should happen at all, because Billy has behaved appallingly during the whole saga - why should anyone root for his and Honey's reunion?
There was a perfect opportunity to split them up a few weeks ago when all the stuff about the car lot scam came out. Why they didn't take it remains a mystery to me.
Jay need to get away from everyone with the Last name Mitchell with the exception of Ben who I like their relationship but we’ve not seen much since Max was cast as Ben.
Honey likewise lets explore her with other characters like we did with Adam and the Ahmeds and Suki.
As for Billy they need to cut their losses and axe this waste of space Character. So Perry, but the Character needs to go.
The only thing Billy has done that Jay hasn't is cheat on Honey and couples have overcome a lot worse than that in soap. They have both been involved in crime, which Honey apparently hates despite being happy to live with a murderer in 2016.
The Honey-Jay relationship has done a lot of damage to one of EE's best patchwork families. I'm not sure if it can be repaired.
This.
And TPTB have clearly backtracked on them, hence their scenes together last year amounting to a literal one hand count.
So short of actually splitting them up, they know it's as dead as Redwater.
I hope the new producer doesn't put Billy and Honey back together. He made his bed, so he shouldn't be rewarded for 6+ years of whining and or hounding Honey over who she sees [even if Jay is, obviously, wrong, for her for all the aforementioned reasons].
This is why soaps need to focus on friendships more rather than being obsessed with coupling everyone up.
Agreed. Whilst I don't think Jamie Borthwick is a bad actor, nor is Jay a bad character, I do wonder if he has a place on the show. Countless producers seem to ignore him and never invest, and I doubt it'll change soon. Perhaps it would be better for Jamie to invest his time and talent elsewhere, where he can truly shine.
Agreed. Age gaps are common in soaps, but the difference with this one is both characters' being connected to Billy, both as a son figure and wife. It's all sorts of wrong.
Have Jay paired up with Whitney (someone decent for her finally, I’ve been wanting them together for years since she split up with Lee) and Honey with maybe Mitch because are him & Karen even back together?
I'd prefer that Lee came back and Whitney got back together with him. That was the only time I found Whitney bearable.
I don’t think Jay & Whitney would work, to be honest. I can see him with maybe Frankie or Nancy.
Could he shine elsewhere though?
I don't know if this would work but I wonder Kheerat and Whitney as I wouldn't like to see him written out but I'm getting a feeling that The Panesars all may be written out.
And Jay went out with Lola and at the time Honey was her Nan.
I'd split them and move Jay onto Martin and Zack's lads group for a while or have him strike up a friendship with Aaron.
I agree about Honey and Jack being a better pairing.