Former President Donald Trump discussed loyalty and reiterated claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him Wednesday while speaking to My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell.
Lindell compared the events and what he called “corruption” of the election to the philosophical thought experiment of a tree falling in the forest and no one being there to hear it.
“The media tells us there is no forest,” the creator of My Pillow said. “We were all living in this Twilight Zone … but then you had all the betrayals and attacks on you that escalated to a whole other level.”
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When asked by Lindell how he found the “emotional strength” to handle the events and aftermath of the election, the 45th president said it came down to loyalty.
“I’ve had some disloyal people, and we always go through life,” Trump said. “But, I’ve also [had] tremendous people. In the White House, we had some tremendous successes.”
The former president blamed RINOs, or Republicans in name only, such as Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp for not standing behind him when it came to voter integrity claims following his loss to President Joe Biden.
“I got him elected. If it wasn’t for me, he wouldn’t be governor, right, of Georgia. He wouldn’t even be close. He would have lost. He wouldn’t have won the primary to start off with, and he wouldn’t have run the race against Stacey Abrams,” Trump said. “So he was a tremendous disappointment, and all we wanted was voter integrity.”
While in office, Trump said he was attacked at every chance.
“It was totally phony to start off with, but now you’re reading all about the Russia thing was a hoax,” he said. “It was set up by Hillary Clinton and the Democrats and paid for, and they dealt with Russia.”
The “corruption” and disloyalty carried over into the 2020 election cycle and resulted in a “rigged” outcome, Trump said.
“I was very disappointed, as you were, as millions of people were,” he said. “I think I read 78% of one of our great parties felt that the election was rigged and stolen, and it was rigged.”
Although he was impeached over a “perfect” phone call, the former president said he still loves the country and is proud of his time in office.
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“Few presidents, if any, did what we did when we rebuilt the military,” Trump said. “We did so much, and we did it under a lot of pressure because [there were] so many other outside forces that were fighting us. I just considered it a great honor.”
