How can people slate EE yet defend the drivel delivered by ITV soaps?
JakeGfriedman
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Ok so I tuned into Corrie and Emmerdale this week for their big stunt weeks
You cant possibly tell me you believe that they're superior to EE right now.
I read backlash against EE on here and I dont really get it, despite me knowing that people aren't enjoying it, I still really do and I find very little to pick at storyline or acting wise. The only horrendous year I can remember was 2017/2018
Right now for me its strongest in all departments
Both Coronation street and Emmerdale are unwatchable. Not a strong actor amongst them in my opinion. Social distancing is still having. bad effect of scene dynamics and storylines/scenes are just horrendous
I laughed so much when the prison van crashed in broad daylight. Yet everyone in both vehicles didnt wake up until it was night time.
Then Harvey hits Kevin and makes a phone and gets in a van. The scene cuts and when we return to Kevin and Harvey, Harvey is still sat in the vehicle not moving
Its like they're struggling to fit wafer thin plots into so much air time.
Anyhow I just wanted to share my complete shock at the vitriol poured at EE when the ITV soaps are the worst of the lot.
You cant possibly tell me you believe that they're superior to EE right now.
I read backlash against EE on here and I dont really get it, despite me knowing that people aren't enjoying it, I still really do and I find very little to pick at storyline or acting wise. The only horrendous year I can remember was 2017/2018
Right now for me its strongest in all departments
Both Coronation street and Emmerdale are unwatchable. Not a strong actor amongst them in my opinion. Social distancing is still having. bad effect of scene dynamics and storylines/scenes are just horrendous
I laughed so much when the prison van crashed in broad daylight. Yet everyone in both vehicles didnt wake up until it was night time.
Then Harvey hits Kevin and makes a phone and gets in a van. The scene cuts and when we return to Kevin and Harvey, Harvey is still sat in the vehicle not moving
Its like they're struggling to fit wafer thin plots into so much air time.
Anyhow I just wanted to share my complete shock at the vitriol poured at EE when the ITV soaps are the worst of the lot.
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I refuse to watch emmerdale now with their stupid plot of sending Barton girl over the waterfall and her being under water for 24 hours yet not dying. This was a chance for them to have some great drama.
Aadi not dying when the car exploded too was irritating. Derek wilton got shout at and died, yet an explosion cannot kill a 16 year old.
Fuming
Saying that I watch Eastenders too, and whilst I'm enjoying some things, others are driving me up the wall (a wall is quite happily nail Peter, Gray, Whitney, Billy and the Mitchells to and use for target practice).. I'm letting Martin live purely to look after the Rabbit 🐇
As long as you’re enjoying what you watch, it doesn’t matter what others think of it.
I agree but it reminds me, there's a lot of tribalism around soaps more than any other form of television or even film genre- perhaps except from the Marvel movies vs the indie ones.
I thought the sewer looked very clean and beautifully lit. Nice new terracotta bricks. The water pouring out of the busted pipes looked positively refreshing, like it was from a crystal clear mountain spring. I couldn't understand a word of the dialogue taking place down there, but I didn't mind - I don't know who either of them are, so their conversation would've meant nothing to me anyway.
I had thought Walford was a parallel universe of unreality, but Weatherfield seems to exists on another galaxy.
Im sorry I cant agree. I respect your opinion but im really struggling to understand how you could come to that conclusion? Do people just loved the heightened nature of Hollyoaks that much they just want all the other soaps to follow suite? Have people attention spans really diminished so much
I objectively just cannot see any huge issues with EE right now. In fact the vitriol astonishes and confuses me. And im open to any of the soaps impressing me. I have no loyalty to one over the other
You say theres no strong actors in Corrie in Emmerdale? and there are in Eastenders? lol. I would say theres some very strong actors in the Itv soaps just that they are let down by poor storylines
I can guarantee that if it was EE doing the same stunt week that Corrie or Emmerdale are doing, it would be absolutely ripped apart.
I take it all back EastEnders - you're Jimmy chuffing McGovern compared to this.
In Corrie's defence, it's very funny. Possibly the best sitcom I've seen in a fair while. But actually, that's what was so odd about it.
Two men and one woman waving guns around, power cuts, storms, sinkholes, a man and a woman in the sinkhole with the cleanest looking sewer water I've ever seen.... they want each other dead, have just fallen through the ground..... you'd think they'd be slightly panicked, and the opening dialogue as they both come to?
"Where am I?"
"Well it's not flamin' Butlins is it?"
Quite a funny line actually but seconds earlier she was an emotional wreck and she's just fallen through the ground with someone I assume she hates. Would you really be making jokes?!
Another man waving a gun and threatening a woman in another scene. And a car crash followed by an explosion. And lots of CGI rain.
I thought Corrie was supposed to be the lighter-hearted soap compared with EE?!
They're stuck in that sinkhole for a whole episode and just carry on having the argument they were having just before falling in...... erm...... were they not concerned that the ground had just opened up beneath them? You couldn't make it up. Only, they did, didn't they?!
One thing I also noted is how terrible the acting is, by and large. The odd actor is half decent but so much wooden acting and I don't suppose the very deliberate, clunky dialogue helps either. EE has MANY problems. It's lacking in imagination. It doesn't maintain good character continuity. Some of the stories are just so ill thought out it's untrue, and the odd actor isn't great, but the vast majority of the EE cast can act! The difference in quality is quite astounding actually.
Still, I'm not complaining - it was fun watching Corrie. Haven't laughed so hard in a long time!
This is entirely disingenuous and disproportionate to the quality of the work on screen in EE
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Not just me then, LOL. The sewer really did look very nice, relaxing even, what with the soft lighting and the cascades of clear water, and two glowing people draped over some artfully arranged rocks. All it was missing was a couple of yucca plants, and it might've been a spa.
I thought Toyahs husband/boyfriend? was absolutely gorgeous. There weren't enough scenes with him. Loved the man going down an expanding sinkhole being sent off with nothing more than good wishes and a torch, like he was off for a stroll through a forest glade.
The best delivery, for me, was Dev. 'He's my son, please help him'. Not a trace of panic or distress. He sounded bored.
Haha, especially with the Hallowe'en stuff above ground, it was a relative paradise!
EastEnders is a London based Soap.
Northern Soaps always seem to get an easier ride when it comes to criticism
How was Victoria under water for 24 hours? You realise a soap's timeline by the episode isn't done by time they air in real life. The entire week this week on Emmerdale is probably taking place on the same day, only a few hours has passed since Monday.
The general thesis by the OP is supported by viewing figures though. ITV's soaps far outdraw EastEnders these days, and have held on to their audience far better than EastEnders.