HO: Characters you would axe

SoapFan789SoapFan789 Posts: 2,189
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Hollyoaks needs to axe some characters now as the cast is getting way too big! For me the list of characters that should be axed are:

1. Goldie
2. Olivia - Send all 3 to New Zealand
3. Prince
4. Demarcus - Don’t see the point in the character, probably introduced so when Toby goes Demarcus can replace him
5. Toby - Hope he gets his comeuppance soon
6. Brooke - Send Brooke off to Manchester or London with Ripley
7. Ripley - Send Ripley off to Manchester or London with Brooke
8. Fergus - Have him arrested
9. Trish - Give her a proper storyline, if not then she should 100% be axed
10. Olly - Boring character, boring actor, should’ve just had the character stay away from the village rather then recasting him
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  • R2Y5A0N2R2Y5A0N2 Posts: 54,679
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    Maxine - I'd have Nikki Sanderson return to Corrie as Candice who is now married to Jason Grimshaw.
  • bumpandgrindbumpandgrind Posts: 12,581
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    I’d get rid of:

    Brook
    Prince and his new fiancé
    Goldie
    Summer
    Ste
  • whitecliffewhitecliffe Posts: 12,150
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    Off with you

    Brooke
    Nate
    Sid
    Trish
    Fergus
    Prince

    Would have added Toby and Celeste to the list but they have been totally reinvented and I now rather like them, especially Celeste.

    There are a few that need story lines but for now I will save Goldie, Maxine, Damon and Scott from the list.
  • xeres456xeres456 Posts: 31
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    Too many characters to mention. Dump all the McQueens, Deveraux, and Nightingales. Dump anyone introduced in the last five years( Except the Maaliks). Keep the Osbornes, Cunninghams, and Maaliks. Time for a fresh start.
  • BrekkieBrekkie Posts: 24,227
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    The show is so stale at the moment. It needs to feel fresh again and a big cull is the only way to make way for a new cast which for me would include a big new central family (4 teenage/student kids & parents - and I'd put a black family front and centre as a traditional Hollyoaks family), a secondary new family (a gay dad and a couple of kids joining up with Ste's family), a bunch of students, a couple of 20 something couples and probably a couple more school kids as well. Get rid of the McQueens and we need a new family in the pub as well.


    So there are 60+ regular characters on wikipedia, of which I would quite easily axe 23 and in total up to 34, with a further six who are so new it's unfair to pass judgement. All the decisions are actually down to the characters - either they've not been used for years, their storylines have really made retaining them difficult and it's better to tie things up and move on or the character is just going round in circles or needs removing to enable more potential storylines for those left behind. It's actually nice that for once nobody is on such a list due to them being a poor actor. I don't think any of the current regulars fit into that category.

    Had to use a spreadsheet to sort:

    Top of the axe list:
    Warren Fox
    Nana McQueen
    Theresa McQueen
    Trish Minniver
    Diane O'Connor
    Maxine Minniver
    Peri Lomax
    Leela Lomax
    Grace Black
    Cleo McQueen
    Scott Drinkwell
    Sally St. Claire
    Brody Hudson
    Donna-Marie Quinn
    Martine Deveraux
    Walter Deveraux
    Toby Faroe
    Celeste Faroe
    Felix Westwood
    Cher Winters
    Summer Ranger
    Fergus Collins
    Timmy Simons


    Potential further additions, but probably not in the short term
    Zara Morgan
    Mercedes McQueen
    John Paul McQueen
    Joel Dexter
    Sienna Blake
    Yasmine Maalik
    Damon Kinsella
    Sylver McQueen
    Brooke Hathaway
    Luke Morgan
    Jack Osborne


    Some people get saved by recent additions. For example Prince returning saves Goldie. If the rest of the McQueens did go that smaller unit of Goldie, Prince and potentially a returning Hunter could take the character in a different direction than her current job share with Theresa.

    The likes of the Deverauxs, Summer and Cher just get a time limit stuck on them by their storylines. The likes of the Lomaxes and Grace are characters I really like but I just don't think seem to have a point anymore.

    Those in the second list for me fall in the use them or lose them category, and in the case of JP and Mercedes that means actually develop them rather than keeping them trapped in a repetitive loop of misery. Personally I'd get rid but I also think when making such calls you need to exercise a bit of caution too.

    Jack Osborne is a legend but his legendary status diminishes with every passing year, especially now Frankie has gone. The way he was written over the Mandy/Darren/Nancy triangle and at times in relation to the county lines story just didn't seem in character, and though I think it is important to keep Darren's dad around I think if they do they need to do so in a way that doesn't compromise the character.
  • Multimedia81Multimedia81 Posts: 83,384
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    SoapFan789 wrote: »
    Hollyoaks needs to axe some characters now as the cast is getting way too big! For me the list of characters that should be axed are:

    1. Goldie
    2. Olivia - Send all 3 to New Zealand
    3. Prince
    4. Demarcus - Don’t see the point in the character, probably introduced so when Toby goes Demarcus can replace him
    5. Toby - Hope he gets his comeuppance soon
    6. Brooke - Send Brooke off to Manchester or London with Ripley
    7. Ripley - Send Ripley off to Manchester or London with Brooke
    8. Fergus - Have him arrested
    9. Trish - Give her a proper storyline, if not then she should 100% be axed
    10. Olly - Boring character, boring actor, should’ve just had the character stay away from the village rather then recasting him

    I agree with all of these, apart from Ollie while Luke is still in the show. I am hoping Prince has only come back to create an exit storyline for Goldie. :relieved:
  • JArsea123JArsea123 Posts: 9,517
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    Brody
    Damon
    John Paul
    Toby
    Timmy
    Romeo
    Sylver
    Fergus
    Goldie
    Grace
    Leela
    Maxine
    Mercedes
    Nana McQueen
    Theresa
    Trish

    That's who I'd get rid of
  • corkontheoceancorkontheocean Posts: 1,733
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    All the McQueens except for Nana, Sylver and Cleo
    Brody
    Fergus
    Warren
    Romeo
    Juliet
    Mandy
    Trish
    Ollie
    Brooke
    Summer
  • Mindy-MooMindy-Moo Posts: 20,455
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    Well there all axed with the show getting the chop
  • Joey15811Joey15811 Posts: 15,426
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    edited 12/09/21 - 21:24 #11
    All of the McQueen/Winters family with exception of maybe Cleo

    Trish
    Maxine
    Summer
    Yasmin (She’s way too OTT for my liking and extremely annoying)
    Brooke
    Ripley
    Mandy
  • Ben_ThistlewaiteBen_Thistlewaite Posts: 13,891
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    Liberty Savage
    Can't act, disastrous character and those nostrils do irritate me. I wish they would kill her off.

    Joel Dexter
    He is boring and is only relevant when it comes to Cleo McQueen which is just awful as she is a soul sucking wreck. The son of Warren Fox has always been a disappointment!

    Peri Lomax
    Awful actress and I just cringe. She really think she is wise and intelligent but she is thick as two planks. How is she still working in that hospital LOL!

    Leela Lomax
    With Nancy Osborne and Diane Hutchinson around I really don't think we even need her. She is so aimless and her being off screen has not helped at all. I never did rate the character at all.

    Goldie McQueen
    Can't act, has no place there now Theresa McQueen is back and just appears to be there to look different in different weaves. She has competition with Martine Deverauxs weave that miraculously stayed afloat her head as she dived into the river! LOL!

    Damon Kinsella
    Who is he? Why is he there? Why is he paired with Liberty which just makes him even more irrelevant.

    Sami Maalik
    Stuck up and badly acted. That bottom lip of his is annoying too. I wish they would kill him off and let the Maaliks be a family without him. Hopefully Verity Hutchinson will thrive as a character as she has been seriously lacking since her debut.

    Brooke Hathaway
    Selfish and the person that plays her seems so tuck up too. I would like to know of the rumours are true that she claimed Aeden Duckworth was racist towards her.
    Overall they jut make me feel uncomfortable and suck the life out of any happy dynamics. I am annoyed she was part of destroying a strong friendship between Ollie Morgan and Imran Maalik.

    Walter Deveraux
    The actor is shockingly bad and the character is just flat and is another weak link in the Deverauxs.

    Toby Faroe
    Glad to see Celeste Faroe moving away from him as she is a strong character and he is a badly acted one. I can't be bothered seeing him jealous over Joel and Demarcus Westwood whilst being lumbered with awful dementor Cleo McQueen.

    Ripley Lennox
    I think she has had chance to settle in and nothing is happening with her at all. Sticking her with loathsome Brooke is NOT doing her characters any favours. Not sure when Brooke even started liking "girls" which technically is incorrect due to non-binary. I think Hollyoaks should have addressed this.
  • dee123dee123 Posts: 46,268
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    edited 13/09/21 - 08:55 #13
    I don't hate them as much as some do here but the McQueen's are THE HO family. They aren't going anywhere.
  • ianradioianianradioian Posts: 74,865
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    edited 13/09/21 - 09:21 #14
    Brooke
    Summer
    Leela
    Trish
    Maxine
    Scott
    Ripley
    Mercedes
    Timmy
    Luke
    Cher
    & Sienna whiny voice can all go.
    All are DREADFUL.
  • Gambit_is_aceGambit_is_ace Posts: 9,458
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    Goldie
    Prince
    Summer
    John Paul
    Brooke
    Ripley
    Trish
    Maxine
  • Gwaed WaedlydGwaed Waedlyd Posts: 5,401
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    Ste/his kids
    Trish
    Peri and leela
    Goldie
    Prince
    Sylver
    Donna Marie
    Romeo
    Juliet
    Felix
    Ripley
    Broke
    Summer
  • SecretLifeoBeesSecretLifeoBees Posts: 50,892
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    Ste Hay
    Mercedes McQueen
    John Paul McQueen
    Trish Minniver
    Maxine Minniver
    Brody Hudson
    Sylver McQueen
    Brooke Hathaway
    Fergus Collins
    Timmy Simons
  • raspberry_slayraspberry_slay Posts: 378
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    Walter
    Damon
    Brody
    Scott
    Trish
    Fergus
  • idratherjackidratherjack Posts: 1,192
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    I would get rid of some characters who have become so stale and well past their sell by date such as

    Sienna
    Grace
    Maxine
    Damon
    Brody
    Warren
    Leela
    Sylver

    Of the newer arrivals I would say the following should go

    Summer (hopefully she will return to be killed off this week)
    Fergus (I'm quite sure we will have a "who killed Fergus?" storyline sooner rather than later)
    Trish (Denise Welch could have been great and an asset to the show if she had played a normal person paired with Jack for example but the character is just horrible)

    I'd also axe Brooke and Ripley who both bore me to tears. I'm not a big fan of the Devereauxs but with Celeste's recent personality transplant she is finally likeable. I can't see Richard Blackwood sticking around long term anyway and surely Toby's character has an expiration date.

    The Maaliks are the best family in the show at the moment with Shaq being a great addition so they can stay. The Nightingales too as James and Marnie are great characters and I like Romeo and Juliet plus Donna Marie too. Obviously you have your untouchables like Tony/Darren/Nancy/Mandy/Cindy/Jack/Tom and I like that they have links right back to the 90s.

    They also need to develop and integrate Sid and Ollie into the show better. I get the feeling that Sid was only ever intended to be kept on for the county lines storyline and since that finished the character has been floundering without much to do. I hope they know what a great actor they have in Billy Price and make him central to the show again like he was last year. Their treatment of Ollie this year has been very strange - he's barely featured and even though he's been back a while now we never see him with his friendship group. He and Imran has such a great relationship so they need to stop making him so isolated and reintegrate him back in with the teens again. Gabriel Clark is another talented likeable actor and I'd like to see him get a lot more to do.

    I've been watching since the beginning and Hollyoaks used to refresh it's cast every 3 years or so which kept it feeling fresh and vibrant, over the last 10 years it has become so stagnant. I agree that I'd like to see two new big families (with no existing ties to current characters) and the return of the students to get the show back to its roots. It used to be a young people's soap exploring their lives and now it's more about middle aged gangsters. I have seen an improvement over the last few weeks after a very lacklustre year but I really do believe an injection of new characters could work wonders like when Brendan, Cheryl, Mitzeee and the Costellos came in.
  • BrekkieBrekkie Posts: 24,227
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    I've been watching since the beginning and Hollyoaks used to refresh it's cast every 3 years or so which kept it feeling fresh and vibrant, over the last 10 years it has become so stagnant. I agree that I'd like to see two new big families (with no existing ties to current characters) and the return of the students to get the show back to its roots. It used to be a young people's soap exploring their lives and now it's more about middle aged gangsters. I have seen an improvement over the last few weeks after a very lacklustre year but I really do believe an injection of new characters could work wonders like when Brendan, Cheryl, Mitzeee and the Costellos came in.
    Absolutely agree. With Corrie, EastEnders and Emmerdale all pushing their younger characters much more than they used to and Hollyoaks concentrating far more than it should on older characters it has lost it's point of difference. It needs to find it's youth again and it's sense of fun.

  • SoapFan789SoapFan789 Posts: 2,189
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    Mindy-Moo wrote: »
    Well there all axed with the show getting the chop

    Where did you read this because it hasn’t been axed.
  • SoapFan789SoapFan789 Posts: 2,189
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    edited 13/09/21 - 15:38 #22
    Updated List:

    1. Goldie
    2. Olivia - Send all 3 to New Zealand
    3. Prince
    4. Demarcus - Don’t see the point in the character, probably introduced so when Toby goes Demarcus can replace him
    5. Toby - Hope he gets his comeuppance soon
    6. Brooke - Send Brooke off to Manchester or London with Ripley
    7. Ripley - Send Ripley off to Manchester or London with Brooke
    8. Fergus - Have him arrested
    9. Trish - Give her a proper storyline, if not then she should 100% be axed
    10. Olly - Boring character, boring actor, should’ve just had the character stay away from the village rather then recasting him
    (Newly added)11. Ste - The far right storyline was amazing but he should’ve stayed away from the show when he left
    (Newly added)12. Romeo - Boring character, all his main storylines have been affairs
    (Newly added)13. Sylver - Good character but I don’t think he should stay if they pair him with Mercedes again, should move away with Cher
    (Newly added)14. Cher - Her and Sylver should leave and move away
    (Newly added)15. Mercedes - Either keep her as a single mother as she works well when just with Bobby, if not, send her off
    (Newly added)16. Nate - Don’t see the point in the character, probably another psycho storyline
    (Newly added)17. Timmy - He’s a good character but I don’t see how they could revive his character after what he’s helping Fergus do

    That 17 characters who could easily be axed (some could be given good storylines to sort them out).
  • BrekkieBrekkie Posts: 24,227
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    Hollyoaks seem to have conveniently put together a three minute package of characters I would axe in their autumn trailer.
  • TotallyTVTotallyTV Posts: 603
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    None of them.
    Axing characters doesn't fix problems - if anything, it creates more - because new characters will be introduced, but they'll have the same issues. Bring in new storyliners and writers to give existing characters a new direction: pretty much any character can be improved with enough imagination. But it's unfair to put a load of actors out of work because the people behind the scenes aren't creative enough to do their own jobs of giving them something to act... unless they're particularly bad actors, or are unprofessional to work with; but that's a whole other issue!
  • BrekkieBrekkie Posts: 24,227
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    Whilst I absolutely agree the problems are more behind the scenes than on the screen acting is always about short term contracts rather than long term security and most people who sign up for Hollyoaks would have only initially been signed up for 6-12 months - anything else is a bonus. Although I agree putting people out of work, especially during a pandemic, isn't nice, for a soap like Hollyoaks they need to make tough decisions because if they don't there is a real danger that they'll be no work for anybody sooner or later if not fixing the issues leads to the axe.
  • TotallyTVTotallyTV Posts: 603
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    Brekkie wrote: »
    Whilst I absolutely agree the problems are more behind the scenes than on the screen acting is always about short term contracts rather than long term security and most people who sign up for Hollyoaks would have only initially been signed up for 6-12 months - anything else is a bonus. Although I agree putting people out of work, especially during a pandemic, isn't nice, for a soap like Hollyoaks they need to make tough decisions because if they don't there is a real danger that they'll be no work for anybody sooner or later if not fixing the issues leads to the axe.
    But that's the point: axing the actors doesn't 'fix the issues', because they're not the root cause of the problem. The 'tough decisions' in question should be hiring and firing the staff behind-the-scenes who control what happens on-screen: they're the root cause.
    Each character consists of storyliners, writers, directors, wardrobe, hair/makeup (and probably others) as well as the actor, all contributing to what the viewers see. So, why is it the actor who gets punished (by being axed) when thing go wrong, when there are other people involved in the character's arc?
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