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EastEnders - Shirley's dark attitudes

Starmers98Starmers98 Posts: 435
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First of all, she didn't have any kind words for Kush when he died. Kush's crime: being a grass.
Now in today's episode she says: 'I would've willingly killed Beale after what he did to Denny, you know that.'
Is Shirley's dark feelings a cause for concern?

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    MaxcidentMaxcident Posts: 7,270
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    Definitely agree. She was only bothered with Dennis in weeks running up to his death, yet has had a many years running feud with Sharon, but she’s now saying she would’ve happily killed Ian for Sharon, over the fact she came to know Sharon’s son in a few weeks running up to his death. It’s very bizarre. I can’t buy any scenes, whereby I see Shirley crying, especially when she’s been spewing acidic mannerisms in the direction of other characters in the scene before. She goes from one extreme to the other in terms of emotion so I think she’s probably got some sort of mental health issue.
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    monalisa62003monalisa62003 Posts: 56,962
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    Maxcident wrote: »
    Definitely agree. She was only bothered with Dennis in weeks running up to his death, yet has had a many years running feud with Sharon, but she’s now saying she would’ve happily killed Ian for Sharon, over the fact she came to know Sharon’s son in a few weeks running up to his death. It’s very bizarre. I can’t buy any scenes, whereby I see Shirley crying, especially when she’s been spewing acidic mannerisms in the direction of other characters in the scene before. She goes from one extreme to the other in terms of emotion so I think she’s probably got some sort of mental health issue.

    She looked after denny around the time of Paul's death when they thought ben had died. Obviously being phils friend over the years she would have known denny
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    MaxcidentMaxcident Posts: 7,270
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    monalisa62003 wrote: »
    Maxcident wrote: »
    Definitely agree. She was only bothered with Dennis in weeks running up to his death, yet has had a many years running feud with Sharon, but she’s now saying she would’ve happily killed Ian for Sharon, over the fact she came to know Sharon’s son in a few weeks running up to his death. It’s very bizarre. I can’t buy any scenes, whereby I see Shirley crying, especially when she’s been spewing acidic mannerisms in the direction of other characters in the scene before. She goes from one extreme to the other in terms of emotion so I think she’s probably got some sort of mental health issue.

    She looked after denny around the time of Paul's death when they thought ben had died. Obviously being phils friend over the years she would have known denny

    I dont think it was a lengthy amount of time she looked after him for, and also, her and Phil have kept out of eachothers’ way only for the past couple of years to be drawn towards eachother once again, when he hired Shirley as an associate. I don’t think part of her job description was babysitting Denny, so I can’t imagine she’d have known him terribly well, which made the scenes in the cafe when she was blubbering in front of her long-standing enemy rather unbelievable.
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    monalisa62003monalisa62003 Posts: 56,962
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    Maxcident wrote: »
    monalisa62003 wrote: »
    Maxcident wrote: »
    Definitely agree. She was only bothered with Dennis in weeks running up to his death, yet has had a many years running feud with Sharon, but she’s now saying she would’ve happily killed Ian for Sharon, over the fact she came to know Sharon’s son in a few weeks running up to his death. It’s very bizarre. I can’t buy any scenes, whereby I see Shirley crying, especially when she’s been spewing acidic mannerisms in the direction of other characters in the scene before. She goes from one extreme to the other in terms of emotion so I think she’s probably got some sort of mental health issue.

    She looked after denny around the time of Paul's death when they thought ben had died. Obviously being phils friend over the years she would have known denny

    I dont think it was a lengthy amount of time she looked after him for, and also, her and Phil have kept out of eachothers’ way only for the past couple of years to be drawn towards eachother once again, when he hired Shirley as an associate. I don’t think part of her job description was babysitting Denny, so I can’t imagine she’d have known him terribly well, which made the scenes in the cafe when she was blubbering in front of her long-standing enemy rather unbelievable.

    But they were still friends before that she helped with the jay stuff. There was a lot of scenes you would see Shirley at the house for only one minute but she'd obviously been there longer. It's obvious apart of her will always feel something for him so even if it wasn't a job to her she would have done whatever
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    Ben_ThistlewaiteBen_Thistlewaite Posts: 13,891
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    It is just to make here relevant in the minted amount of scenes the actress bothers to bark though.
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    mo mousemo mouse Posts: 38,764
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    She believes that justice is dispensed by inflicting violence, whether she knows all the facts or not. Always been like that. A person very low down on the scale of human evolution.
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    HighLineGardenHighLineGarden Posts: 962
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    I don't want to offend anybody, but I always get sapphic vibes over the character of Shirley - despite her history with Phil. Just my observation.
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    monalisa62003monalisa62003 Posts: 56,962
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    Ben_Thistlewaite wrote: »
    It is just to make here relevant in the minted amount of scenes the actress bothers to bark though.

    You seem to have something against the actress probably end up putting you on ignore
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    grasstractorgrasstractor Posts: 4,457
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    Starmers98 wrote: »
    First of all, she didn't have any kind words for Kush when he died. Kush's crime: being a grass.
    Now in today's episode she says: 'I would've willingly killed Beale after what he did to Denny, you know that.'
    Is Shirley's dark feelings a cause for concern?

    It is worrying how some characters have no problem at all with murder. I think the audience are meant to root for Phil, Sharon and Shirley when each of them wants Ian dead.

    In Shirley's case I think it's meant to just be part of her character. Being a horrible person.
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    mo mousemo mouse Posts: 38,764
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    A two bit lush who should die alone in the gutter without fanfare or ceremony while an icy wind blows and howls.
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    O-JO-J Posts: 18,851
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    I hate her vile personality, her attitude stinks worse than her morning breath after an alcoholic bender the night before
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    mo mouse wrote: »
    A two bit lush who should die alone in the gutter without fanfare or ceremony while an icy wind blows and howls.

    You mean… like Pauline Fowler? 😭
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    solostarsolostar Posts: 9,505
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    Shirley is the opposite of fresh air at the moment. Her and Jay need to be axed.
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    Ben_ThistlewaiteBen_Thistlewaite Posts: 13,891
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    monalisa62003 wrote: »
    Ben_Thistlewaite wrote: »
    It is just to make here relevant in the minted amount of scenes the actress bothers to bark though.

    You seem to have something against the actress probably end up putting you on ignore

    Please do.
    Not everyone likes her. Deal with it via the ignore button.
    Thanks.
    solostar wrote: »
    Shirley is the opposite of fresh air at the moment. Her and Jay need to be axed.

    They do yes,
    I would add Whitney into that list too. I suppose she actually works though I suppose.
    Seamus2008 wrote: »
    mo mouse wrote: »
    A two bit lush who should die alone in the gutter without fanfare or ceremony while an icy wind blows and howls.

    You mean… like Pauline Fowler? 😭

    An undeserving exit even if I didn't mind her turning into a bitter, old lady.
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